romney equal there in wisconsin both have visited twice. statistics, teny electorial votes from the state of wisconsin. the the state governor scott walker you know that name well. we'll talk about that factor, the factor of a republican governor with our next guest in just a moment. also as far as polling, though, this is the latest "real clear politics" average, the president pulling away a little bit from mitt romney. not as much as before in the last couple of weeks but up by six points in the state of wisconsin. joining us now craig gilbert the washington bureau chief and national political reporter for the milwaukee "centennial." you've covered sixee legses. how does this compare to the past. >> everything is different the way the campaign works, the media works. as far as wisconsin we've had cycles where wisconsin was at ground zero especially in 2004. this year what jumps out about it in terms of wisconsin's role is paul ryan's appearance on the ticket. jenna: how will that help. >> he can't by himself close a 3 or 4 or 5-point gap.